Murder, etc. is creating an investigative true crime podcast
In early 1975, Greenville County Sheriff Cash Williams declared that his community didn't have an organized crime problem. He said the criminals of Greenville County were "a bunch of amateurs."

Murder, etc. listeners didn't miss the irony. When the most dedicated started talking about getting together to talk about what they had heard so far, listener Tim Joner declared they should be called the Bunch of Amateurs

Based on that, we formed Amateurs ETC to make sure those of you who care the most about this story have a place to discuss the show that isn't available to the general public. It's where you can trade theories  and information. It's where we will first announce news about the show and where we will do Q&As.

You are here because you care about this story. 

You are here because you want to know the truth.

You are here because you believe in this story enough that you want to be as deep into the investigation as you can. 

Welcome to Amateurs ETC

Murder, etc. producer Brad Willis has been investigating the Looper murders and Charles Wakefield, Jr.'s conviction for two decades. He has personally funded the investigation and production of the Murder, etc. podcast while working a full-time job. Murder, etc. is a costly endeavor, and for it to continue, it needs your support. 


BEFORE YOU SIGN UP, PLEASE INVESTIGATE EVERYTHING BELOW

1. Your first monthly donation will be deducted on the day you sign up

When you decide to sign up, Patreon will take your first monthly contribution on that day. After that, you will be charged on the first day of every month. We recommend signing up early in the month rather than late so you get the most of your first contribution. Please take note of your calendar. We don't want any hard feelings if you decide to sign up on the 28th day of the month.

2. We will grant you access as soon as possible

Access to the closed Facebook page does not happen automatically, so it may take several hours before we get your verified access ready. We will work as fast as we can, but please don't expect instant access.

3. Premium items will be shipped as quickly as possible

We are a small operation, so any items coming by mail will be shipped to you just as soon as we can get them in the mail. If you are one of the first members of Amateurs ETC, your premium items should arrive by the end of June. After that, we hope to get everything to you within two weeks of your first contribution.

4. Senior Investigator benefits will be updated regularly

For Amateurs ETC members who choose Senior Investigator status or higher, please be aware that this benefit is a work-in-progress. We want to reward you with benefits no one else has. None of these benefits are set in stone yet, but possibilities include:

  • Discounted or free access to live events depending on your Investigator level
  • Insider information in a Senior Investigators briefing
  • Exclusive access to not-yet-pubic investigation details
  • Discounted or free access to small group meet & greets with the investigation team
  • Something a Senior Investigator suggests that we haven't thought of yet

5. The Senior Investigator and VIP Investigator Roll Call is optional
 

The Murder, etc. web page will have a Roll Call page that lists and thanks all members of the Senior Investigator and VIP Investigator groups. You can opt out of this if you'd prefer your name not be on the Roll Call. 

6. The VIP Investigator episode thank you is optional

If you want to be a VIP Investigator but don't want to be publicly thanked in an episode, you can opt out of the public thanks. 

7. Preferred communication is reserved for for VIP Investigators 

VIP Investigators wish to talk about the case with private with Murder, etc. host Brad Willis will receive priority online chat privileges and one 30-minute phone call per month. Members who elect to use their phone call will agree to have the conversation recorded for possible use in a podcast episode or bonus episode.


 
Tiers
Try Amateurs ETC until June 30
$1 or more per month

As a special offer to Murder, ETC listeners, we're giving anyone who can put up $1 the chance to join our private Facebook group until June 30. There you will see pictures and documents that haven't been made public. You will have access to a Facebook Live Q&A on June 30. You'll also get to chat with all of the other Amateurs who have been with the group since it started. If you choose this benefit, please carefully read your thank you email.


Membership
$5 or more per month

For the listener who wants to know more...


Membership to Amateurs ETC members-only Facebook Page which will include:


  • Murder, etc. discussion groups among other members 
  • Discussions with people who have appeared on Murder, etc.
  • Photos and documents you won’t find anywhere else
  • Exclusive access to monthly Facebook Live Q & As with Murder, etc. producer Brad Willis and guests
  • Inside info about the podcast before it’s made public
Investigator
$10 or more per month

For the listener who wants to hear everything...


  • All benefits of $5 membership
  • Premium content, including bonus episodes that won’t be released to the public for at least a month
  • Personal thank you note
Lead Investigator
$15 or more per month

For the listener who wants to get involved...


  • All benefits of $5 & $10 memberships
  • Amateurs ETC pen 
  • 5x7 photo card of Charles Wakefield in West Greenville,  taken by Murder, etc. producer Brad Willis with quote from Charles Wakefield
Senior Investigator
$20 or more per month

For the listener who won't stop until they know the truth...


  • All benefits of $5 , $10 , & $15 memberships
  • Senior Investigator card benefits
  • Amateurs ETC notebook
  • Senior Investigator recognition on Amateurs ETC Roll Call (Optional)
Murder, etc. VIP Investigator
$50 or more per month

For the listener who knows they can help and wants to be the ultimate insider on the investigation...


  •  All benefits of $5 , $10 , $15, & $20 memberships
  • Amateurs ETC embroidered messenger bag
  • Enhanced Senior Investigator benefits
  • Preferred communications with Murder, etc. investigation team
  • (Optional) Personal thanks from Brad Willis in a Murder, etc. episode
  • (Optional) VIP Investigator recognition on Amateurs ETC Roll Call*
Murder, etc. Benefactor
$100 or more per month

This special tier offers all of the benefits available to other levels, but also gives contributors who would like to be bigger benefactors an opportunity to make a bigger difference. Murder, etc. Benefactors will be given optional recognition on the Murder, etc. website and the show's everlasting gratitude. 

In early 1975, Greenville County Sheriff Cash Williams declared that his community didn't have an organized crime problem. He said the criminals of Greenville County were "a bunch of amateurs."

Murder, etc. listeners didn't miss the irony. When the most dedicated started talking about getting together to talk about what they had heard so far, listener Tim Joner declared they should be called the Bunch of Amateurs

Based on that, we formed Amateurs ETC to make sure those of you who care the most about this story have a place to discuss the show that isn't available to the general public. It's where you can trade theories  and information. It's where we will first announce news about the show and where we will do Q&As.

You are here because you care about this story. 

You are here because you want to know the truth.

You are here because you believe in this story enough that you want to be as deep into the investigation as you can. 

Welcome to Amateurs ETC

Murder, etc. producer Brad Willis has been investigating the Looper murders and Charles Wakefield, Jr.'s conviction for two decades. He has personally funded the investigation and production of the Murder, etc. podcast while working a full-time job. Murder, etc. is a costly endeavor, and for it to continue, it needs your support. 


BEFORE YOU SIGN UP, PLEASE INVESTIGATE EVERYTHING BELOW

1. Your first monthly donation will be deducted on the day you sign up

When you decide to sign up, Patreon will take your first monthly contribution on that day. After that, you will be charged on the first day of every month. We recommend signing up early in the month rather than late so you get the most of your first contribution. Please take note of your calendar. We don't want any hard feelings if you decide to sign up on the 28th day of the month.

2. We will grant you access as soon as possible

Access to the closed Facebook page does not happen automatically, so it may take several hours before we get your verified access ready. We will work as fast as we can, but please don't expect instant access.

3. Premium items will be shipped as quickly as possible

We are a small operation, so any items coming by mail will be shipped to you just as soon as we can get them in the mail. If you are one of the first members of Amateurs ETC, your premium items should arrive by the end of June. After that, we hope to get everything to you within two weeks of your first contribution.

4. Senior Investigator benefits will be updated regularly

For Amateurs ETC members who choose Senior Investigator status or higher, please be aware that this benefit is a work-in-progress. We want to reward you with benefits no one else has. None of these benefits are set in stone yet, but possibilities include:

  • Discounted or free access to live events depending on your Investigator level
  • Insider information in a Senior Investigators briefing
  • Exclusive access to not-yet-pubic investigation details
  • Discounted or free access to small group meet & greets with the investigation team
  • Something a Senior Investigator suggests that we haven't thought of yet

5. The Senior Investigator and VIP Investigator Roll Call is optional
 

The Murder, etc. web page will have a Roll Call page that lists and thanks all members of the Senior Investigator and VIP Investigator groups. You can opt out of this if you'd prefer your name not be on the Roll Call. 

6. The VIP Investigator episode thank you is optional

If you want to be a VIP Investigator but don't want to be publicly thanked in an episode, you can opt out of the public thanks. 

7. Preferred communication is reserved for for VIP Investigators 

VIP Investigators wish to talk about the case with private with Murder, etc. host Brad Willis will receive priority online chat privileges and one 30-minute phone call per month. Members who elect to use their phone call will agree to have the conversation recorded for possible use in a podcast episode or bonus episode.


 

Recent posts by Murder, etc.

Tiers
Try Amateurs ETC until June 30
$1 or more per month

As a special offer to Murder, ETC listeners, we're giving anyone who can put up $1 the chance to join our private Facebook group until June 30. There you will see pictures and documents that haven't been made public. You will have access to a Facebook Live Q&A on June 30. You'll also get to chat with all of the other Amateurs who have been with the group since it started. If you choose this benefit, please carefully read your thank you email.


Membership
$5 or more per month

For the listener who wants to know more...


Membership to Amateurs ETC members-only Facebook Page which will include:


  • Murder, etc. discussion groups among other members 
  • Discussions with people who have appeared on Murder, etc.
  • Photos and documents you won’t find anywhere else
  • Exclusive access to monthly Facebook Live Q & As with Murder, etc. producer Brad Willis and guests
  • Inside info about the podcast before it’s made public
Investigator
$10 or more per month

For the listener who wants to hear everything...


  • All benefits of $5 membership
  • Premium content, including bonus episodes that won’t be released to the public for at least a month
  • Personal thank you note
Lead Investigator
$15 or more per month

For the listener who wants to get involved...


  • All benefits of $5 & $10 memberships
  • Amateurs ETC pen 
  • 5x7 photo card of Charles Wakefield in West Greenville,  taken by Murder, etc. producer Brad Willis with quote from Charles Wakefield
Senior Investigator
$20 or more per month

For the listener who won't stop until they know the truth...


  • All benefits of $5 , $10 , & $15 memberships
  • Senior Investigator card benefits
  • Amateurs ETC notebook
  • Senior Investigator recognition on Amateurs ETC Roll Call (Optional)
Murder, etc. VIP Investigator
$50 or more per month

For the listener who knows they can help and wants to be the ultimate insider on the investigation...


  •  All benefits of $5 , $10 , $15, & $20 memberships
  • Amateurs ETC embroidered messenger bag
  • Enhanced Senior Investigator benefits
  • Preferred communications with Murder, etc. investigation team
  • (Optional) Personal thanks from Brad Willis in a Murder, etc. episode
  • (Optional) VIP Investigator recognition on Amateurs ETC Roll Call*
Murder, etc. Benefactor
$100 or more per month

This special tier offers all of the benefits available to other levels, but also gives contributors who would like to be bigger benefactors an opportunity to make a bigger difference. Murder, etc. Benefactors will be given optional recognition on the Murder, etc. website and the show's everlasting gratitude.