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“But What It Really Means Is....”

... is the go-to show to hear a fearless, unapologetic breakdown of the day’s news. Pam puts words to the unspoken assumptions, dogwhistles & implications with humor and keen insight, so that you know what it all means to YOU.

This is NOT a safe space for Trumpers, and she isn’t trying to be fair or balanced, just honest. On the weekends she’ll introduce you to “Cool-Ass People You Should Know,” from around the world, who are making a positive impact through activism, arts, philanthropy or creative work.

And from time-to-time, she’ll do a Deep Dive Town Hall on the policies and issues that impact you and your future.  It’s real, it’s raw, it’s progressive and it’s unique.

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