Well hello everyone! AEWCH 14 is me and Peter Rollins -- author, philosopher and radical theologian -- talking about religion without God, about desire and psychoanalysis, about the way pleasure and pain are intertwined. I have to say, this is my favorite episode so far!
A few years back I was a fan of Peter's and I hit him up. We followed each other on twitter for a bit, then hung out, and then a year later we were living together. If you like our conversation, please consider supporting Peter's Patreon as well:
IN THIS EP
- How to have religion without God: 1:20
- Why do we hide under the covers to protect ourselves?: 5:50
- The way we enjoy our fears and oppressions: 8:00
- The only true analysis in the second before you die 9:05
- It’s difficult to know what you don’t believe, but the unexamined life is not worth living: 10:10
- Young Conner vs Dracula: 11:35
- “One of life’s great pleasures is having enemies…the trick is picking the right one”: 14:28
- Love Trump’s hate: 14:45
- We have not seen the enemy and it is us: 17:10
- What if this is the world we want? How would we make it better?: 18:35
- Whether you like Freud or not, here’s his point that we should all be grateful for: 21:45
- Why gamblers don’t want to win: 24:35
- The value of being a utopianist: 26:10
- Conner’s brushes with atheism, and how Simone Weil saved him: 38:15
- CS Lewis meets an obscure Italian occultist in the light: 52:05
- How to act when you’re a mystery to yourself: 55:50
- “Monogamy is the most widespread perversion”: 1:00:20
- The value of grace and forgiveness: 1:10:00
- Why are people suspicious of pleasure: 1:23:40
Peter’s has quite a few books out. My favorite is his book of Christian koans, The Orthodox Heretic, and you might also like one of his most popular works, The Divine Magician: The Disappearance of Religion and the Discovery of Faith.
If you’d like to learn more about psychoanalysis and Jacques Lacan, who has been a major influence on Peter (not to mention me), you can read my incomplete but easy-to-read essay on him here.
Adam Phillips, psychoanalyst and author and dream guest for my show (I'm gonna make it happen one day!) wrote this great book called Darwin’s Worms. I bring up often, so just read it, already.
The book that Peter and I bonded over is Enjoying What We Don’t Have: The Political Project of Psychoanalysis by Todd McGowan. It’s great,
Simone Weil wrote about affliction in an essay which appears in he book .
My essay on Charles Fourier and his powerful, enlivening, and hilarious vision of utopia is here.
CS Lewis’s story “Light” is in this book which does, indeed, have a terrible cover. And Italian occultist Massimo Scaligero’s book The Light is here. It’s a pretty intense book.
The Oscar Wilde quote I mention is: "I think that the realization of oneself is the prime aim of life, and to realize oneself through pleasure is finer than to do so through pain.”
Peter and I talked on his facebook live channel once, speaking mostly about marginalized people and ideas. Here's a link to the recording.