Then, Assemblyman Lee Carter from Virginia joins us to talk about his journey to Democratic Socialism and how a bad worker's compensation experience drove him to run for office. How he determined 'socialism' wasn't such a scary word. Lee points out people don't need 'jobs,' they need A Secure Job.
Then, Sam Harris has been boosting Charles Murray. Christopher Hitchens returns from the dead to set him straight on why The Bell Curve was ever talked about.