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I'm so excited to welcome my old friend, historian, martial artist, and fellow podcaster Daniele Bolelli to AEWCH! Daniele and I met years ago when we appeared on the same episode of the Duncan Trussell Family Hour, and we took a continuous shining to each other. Since then, Daniele's own podcast, History On Fire (each episode of which is a mini history lecture) has skyrocketed and become one of the most popular history podcasts of all time. And he continues to release episodes of his other (awesome), more personal podcast, Drunken Taoist.
Daniele and I talk about what history is, the massive tangle of podcasters and public figures that all lead back to a certain Joe Rogan era of podcasting and how that launched my and Daniele's and Duncan's careers, how even the most interesting stories in history can still fall away, how history over-privileges war stories, how differences in consciousness affect how history is told, the problems with identity, how fascism feeds identity and vice versa, why disagreement isn't valuable, and how our non-religious upbringings affected us.
• For more on Daniele: His other books available in English include On the Warrior's Path: Philosophy, Fighting, and Martial Arts Mythology (now in its second edition), Not Afraid: On Fear, Heartbreak, Raising a Baby Girl, and Cage Fighting, and 50 Things You're Not Supposed To Know: Religion. Here's Daniele's website, which has essays and book recommendations on it.
• I was on Daniele's podcast, Drunken Taoist back in 2016, and we talked a lot about, um, sex.
• I'm still reeling from having Kids In The Hall icon Scott Thompson on my show back on AEWCH 32.
• The Chaung Tzu quote is, "“The fish trap exists because of the fish. Once you've gotten the fish you can forget the trap. The rabbit snare exists because of the rabbit. Once you've gotten the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words exist because of meaning. Once you've gotten the meaning, you can forget the words. Where can I find a man who has forgotten words so I can talk with him?”
• And the Ludwig Wittgenstein quote is, "An entire mythology is stored within our language." That quote comes from Wittgenstein's comments on the work of anthropologist James Frazer, which can be found in The Mythology in Our Language: Remarks on Frazer's Golden Bough.
• “don't hesitate get laid that's wisdom
sitting around chanting what crap”
You owe it to yourself to read Ikkyu: Crow With No Mouth: 15th Century Zen Master. It's hilarious, beautiful, and intense. Here's a painting of the dear monk:
• Read Mark Booth's great books, The Illustrated Secret History of the World, The Sacred History: How Angels, Mystics and Higher Intelligence Made Our World, and also read Opening the Dragon Gate: The Making of a Modern Taoist Wizard, about Taoist wizard Wang Liping.
• Want to hear about the pirate prostitute queen, Cheng I Sao (also known as Ching Shih)? Yes, yes you do.
• For my other episode that directly tackles history, check out AEWCH 42 with historian of time & space, Stephen Kern.
• My series The Sex Radicals, which covers thinkers with radical and innovative sexual ideas, is on my blog and starts here.
• If you're not familiar with my mentor, Lynn Margulis, here's my short essay on her, which I wrote shortly after she died.
• Here's "The Same Old Song" by Russell Means. Means's essay is not actually an essay, for, as he states at the outset, "The only possible opening for a statement of this kind is that I detest writing. The process itself epitomizes the European concept of 'legitimate' thinking; what is written has an importance that is denied the spoken." And here's Calvin Luther Martin's stunning book, The Way of the Human Being. (And he's a pictured below. Also? If anyone has any connection to him, he's a dream guest for the show.)
• Owen Barfield is a constant source of inspiration for me. He was one of the Inklings (along with JRR Tolkein, CS Lewis, etc.), and heavily influenced by the work of Rudolf Steiner. One of his best books is Saving the Appearances, which I speak about quite a bit in AEWCH 5.
Until next time!