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In conversation: Alec Karakatsanis on pursuing justice in the criminal punishment system

Oren Nimni and Vanessa A. Bee sit down down with Civil Rights Corps founder Alec Karakatsanis to talk about criminal legal reform, cash bail, the myth of the rule of law, and why he calls the criminal justice system a "criminal punishment system."

Alec's recent Yale Law Journal essay — The Punishment Bureaucracy: How to Think About “Criminal Justice Reform” — is here.

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