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We talk so much about the occult on this show - about angels and esoteric philosophies, about magic and materialism - but I don't get a chance to talk about God often. Which is why I invited writer, theologian, and peace maker Padraig Ó Tuama onto the show.

Padraig is the author of several books, including In the Shelter: Finding Welcome In The Here And Now and Sorry For Your Troubles . He also served as the leader of Ireland's peace and reconciliation committee, the Corrymeela Community, for seven years, which resulted in the book Daily Prayer with the Corrymeela Community

That time, and his huge body of experience dealing with deep divisions and aggressive oppositions, serves as the foundation of much of our talk, which circles around conflicts and how God, power, and powerlessness mediates them.

This is an episode unlike any other, and I'm so happy to share it with you.

We talk:

  • Whether or not we should pray to God or ourselves
  • The good and boring versions of Superman
  • Seeking, wielding, and letting go of power
  • The economy of victimhood
  • How to resolve conflict with fascists (potential and otherwise)
  • Keeping an eye on who's exploiting every conflict
  • Brexit and the British Border (Padraig's better name for the "Irish Border)
  • Taking an interest in what people value in every situation, and the erosion of that interest
  • Loneliness and confidence

And Padraig also reads his beautiful poem "Day of the Dead".


• For more on Padraig, visit his website and read the long and illuminated transcript of his interviews on On Being.

Brian McLaren's book, A New Kind of Christianity: Ten Questions That Are Transforming the Faith, is an excellent exploration of the Bible as a progressive unfolding of the Bible, within the Bible itself. It's plain-language theology with a deep message.

All Star Superman by Grant Morrison and Frank Quitely is truly, um, super.

• And The Boys and Brightburn are two completely different kinds of superhero stories.

• Reading the Apocrypha is, I think, a wonderful task for any of us to undertake.

• I bring up AEWCH 4 with Gordon White, quite a bit. I think it still holds, and of course Gordon's show, Rune Soup is the bastard brother of this show.

Phil Jimenez is my friend and an amazing comic book artist and writer (below is one of his characteristically elaborate and amazing drawings of Wonder Woman).

• Plenty of discussion about elementals on AEWCH 67 on which I talk with spiritual teacher and author Daniel Joseph.

• Here's more on Padraig's friend, activist, actor, and playwright Peterson Toscano.

• I talk a lot about the wages of dark literature quite a bit on AEWCH 61 with mystery writer Sara Gran.

• Want to investigate David Lynch's meditation methods and spiritual mission?

• A bunch of poetry books that Padraig mentions in quick succession: Ân American Sunrise by Joy Harjo, (I think Padraig didn't mean Craig, he meant) Shane McCrae's book The Gilded Auction Block, American Sonnets for My Past and Future Assassin by Terrance Hayes, How To Love A Country by Richard Blanco, and Citizen by Claudie Rankine.

• If for some reason you want to go down the hell-rabbit-hole of Gemma O'Doherty, here's your first stop.

• If you'd like to read a fun book on the Satanic Panic, there actually is one: Satanic Panic: Pop-Cultural Paranoia in the 1980s (hey, everyone was in on it!)

• If you'd like to look into the stories of Christ entering into the Earth, think on the Beatitudes first (seriously) as an act of protection, The go ahead and read Descent into the Depths of the Earth on the Anthroposophic Path of Schooling by Judith von Halle and The Inner Life of the Earth: Exploring the Mysteries of Nature, Subnature, and Supranature edited by Paul V. O'Leary.

• Whitman's multitudes from Song Of Myself:

The past and present wilt—I have fill'd them, emptied them. And proceed to fill my next fold of the future.

Listener up there! what have you to confide to me? Look in my face while I snuff the sidle of evening, (Talk honestly, no one else hears you, and I stay only a minute longer.)

Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.)

I concentrate toward them that are nigh, I wait on the door-slab.

Who has done his day's work? who will soonest be through with his supper? Who wishes to walk with me?

Will you speak before I am gone? will you prove already too late?

• I still love The Monster Squad, slurs and all. Especially the shirt that the main character, played by Andre Gower, wears in it.

• Christian Wiman's book of poetry, Every Riven Thing, is absolutely beautiful, and one of my very favorite books of poetry. Here's the title poem.

Every Riven Thing

God goes, belonging to every riven thing he’s made

sing his being simply by being

the thing it is:

stone and tree and sky,

man who sees and sings and wonders why

God goes. Belonging, to every riven thing he’s made,

means a storm of peace.

Think of the atoms inside the stone.

Think of the man who sits alone

trying to will himself into a stillness where

God goes belonging. To every riven thing he’s made

there is given one shade

shaped exactly to the thing itself:

under the tree a darker tree;

under the man the only man to see

God goes belonging to every riven thing. He’s made

the things that bring him near,

made the mind that makes him go.

A part of what man knows,

apart from what man knows,

God goes belonging to every riven thing he’s made.


Thanks for listening, folks.

Until next time,



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