AGAINST EVERYONE with CONNER HABIB 31: DAVE LE'AUPEPE (GANG OF YOUTHS) or ART OF DARKNESS
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Dave Le'aupepe is frontman of one of the biggest Australian bands of the moment, Gang of Youths. And we sat down during his US tour to discuss rock and roll, living a serious life, and depression. He also plays two songs, "Persevere" (20:23) and a cover of "Chelsea Hotel No. 2" (1:02:32) by Leonard Cohen. 

Dave & Gang of Youths's music is a hopeful melancholy; they present the darkness but don't wallow in it.

On another note, this is the first time I talk at length about my own life with suicidal depression. How it has surged forward in my life and then receded, and why. Dave and I both work through both suicidal feelings, how to cope with them, what they give us, and where they fit in culture. I hope this episode is helpful to those also facing similar challenges.

On a lighter note, Dave broke my camera! We laugh about it in the episode, but if you're watching, rather than listening, you'll see a big difference in the image about halfway through. So, sorry about the image difference. But hey, you just get to feel closer to us.

Love.

CH

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