Today’s interview comes at a particularly poignant time in our lives here in our home. My daughter is turning four very soon and we’ve been having a lot of discussion around princess parties and Cinderella dresses that she wants. As a trained play therapist,a mother, a woman and a feminist, it irks me greatly. I’ve had to really kerb my response and let my daughter explore this idea of girl’s being defined by their appearance.
It’s something I’ve openly admitted I struggle with a lot as a parent. On the day Bowie died, I watched a lot of old videos and was fascinated by my daughter’s reaction to this beautiful man in makeup and a costume. It led to one of my more popular blog posts in which I admit I may have made pink a forbidden fruit in my determination not to present gendered toys to her. It’s an idea that’s constantly evolving for me so I invited James and Ros on from The Gender Diary to help me unpick that a little.
Listening back to edit this,I really love when Ros admits that she didn’t like being at home and things work much better now she’s out of the home 5 days a week and James is at home. James and Ros show an honesty about their limitations as parents that refreshing anda little bit of a relief if I’m honest. When thinking about issues and topics to discuss in the family, I was very determined to find guests who could discuss them in a way that felt human and achievable so none of us listening would feel bad about ourselves.
Today’s conversation is meant to be an open conversation that I hope you will find interesting and reflect on. Please do let us know your reaction as it’s a fascinating topic.
Useful links we chat about:
Resource list of films with more positive role models of gender
Resource list of books with more positive role models of gender
Marianne Grabucker's book that inspired The Gender Diary to record their experiences
The Gender Diary on Twitter
Music is Oh, Look What the Sun Did by Josh Rouse and the Long Vacations via Noisetrade.
Podcast creation support by my producer, Chris Muldoon.