In this interview Barbara discusses the question of what really happened at the Pentagon on 9/11/01. Barbara says that a batch of supposedly "misplaced" photos that have recently emerged contains one in particular that blows the official story to smithereens. That photo, reproduced below, shows the wall of the Pentagon's B Ring across from the alleged "exit hole" in the C Ring that the official story claims was made by what was left of a crashed 757's nose cone and fuselage. The relevant section of the B Ring's wall features no evidence of any impact, no structural damage whatsoever, just a sort of smoky smudge. Yet we are told that such a massive force blew through the C Ring wall that it blasted huge, perfectly circular hole in that reinforced concrete wall! Had a plane, missile, etc. actually blasted through the C Ring wall with the force to create such a hole, it would have massively damaged the B Ring wall just several meters behind it. Yet no such damage is evident. Ergo the C Ring hole was made in some other way. (Namely, by shaped explosive charges.) This is slam-dunk proof that Pentagon insiders used shaped charges, and a ridiculous "smudge" (using spray paint or a smoke bomb?) to create absurdly phony "evidence" of a plane impact.