Sacred and Profane, Bending the Binaries of Faith

is creating a podcast full of story, theology, and comedy

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Curiosity drives everything we do and is one of the best practices you can have! 

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- Sacred and Profane Conversations and our Patron-only forums!


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- Sacred and Profane Conversations, our Patron-only forums

- a shout-out on our podcast


- Exclusive monthly meditation written by Pam and Robyn


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Sacred and Profane: Bending the Binaries of Faith, is a brand new podcast bringing queer and faith perspectives to the ordinary and extraordinary topics that are threaded through our lives.

Pam RockerRobyn Henderson-Espinoza spend a lot of time in the public square talking about faith, religion, LGBTQ+ stuff, and queer possibility, fused together with comedy. 

Pam and Robyn are kindred spirits and Texans who are immersed in activist and spiritual movements. Sacred and Profane puts the elements of story and imagination at the centre, as a way to cut through the bullshit and find meaning!

Featuring mature and immature content, Pam and Robyn bend binaries and talk politics, religion, friendship, and all the things with an attention to the absurd and some comic relief!

About our hosts:
Pam Rocker is a faith leader, queer activist, speaker, comedian, and ukulele player!
Dr. Robyn Henderson-Espinoza is non-binary Transqueer Latinx, public theologian, and everyday porch sitter.

If you want to be a part of telling these stories, we invite you to jump in on a tier!

We just released the first season of our Podcast (including a special Live Podcast taping at the Wild Goose Festival!) and are raising funds to produce more seasons and offer special content. You can subscribe through iTunes/Apple PodcastsSpotifySoundCloud, or just search Sacred and Profane in your fave podcast app!

Your support by listening, sharing, rating, and donating, can help us make more seasons and provide you with more special content!

We want to share the love, dispel the binaries that hold us back, and learn how to celebrate difference - come and join us!

- Pam and Robyn

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When we reach a total of 25 Patrons per month we'll be able to regularly record and produce more brand new seasons of Sacred and Profane! This goal would make it possible to produce episodes that require more time, editing, and research, and we'd love to be able to talk with some of our Patrons in upcoming seasons!
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